The Uncomfortable Truth About Reopening Schools

26.07.2020
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For the last several weeks I’ve been researching the debate on whether or not we should reopen schools around the country when summer vacation ends in August. This is an extremely complicated issue with each side, open or closed, making very compelling arguments. I decided to talk to Dr. David Epstein, an expert in children’s health working as a Pediatric ICU doctor in California, to see how seriously coronavirus was impacting children and what the effects of returning to school might be. PLEASE make sure you watch the entire video before commenting, as this is an extremely nuanced topic and cherry-picking phrases without the whole context will create a destructive discussion as opposed to a constructive one!
Chapters/Timestamps:
Intro: 00:00
Are Children Going To Be Safe In School: 1:16
Will Statistics Change Once Schools Open: 3:57
Will Teachers Be Safe In School: 5:51
Poor Children Are At Higher Risk?: 6:52
Dr. Epstein's Overall Stance On School Reopening: 7:56
Are Teachers Being Sacrificed?: 12:00
Impact On Poorer Communities: 16:22
Final Word: 18:17
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Kommentteja
  • No one in NM has died without an underlying condition, why does our mickey mouse governor lock down? No one in DC even cared to hire her, even though she groppled NY, LOL, Imo, she is a clueless wannabe and NO one wants her, she's a true loser and doesn't even know it, very sad.....

    Queen BeeQueen Bee7 tuntia sitten
  • Teachers love teleNOwotkimg, fire them all, hire scabs......

    Queen BeeQueen Bee7 tuntia sitten
  • Yeah no... time to open schools up

    MalarkeyManMalarkeyManPäivä sitten
  • Reading these comments makes me further lose faith in humanity.

    MoosificationMoosification2 päivää sitten
  • My high school broke the school into three sections. They allow students to choose, parents to choose, and teachers to choose. Teachers could go to school or teach remote,, kids could choose, parents also had a choice. Everyone is choose what is best for them. Simple.

    Makayla HollywoodMakayla Hollywood3 päivää sitten
  • I wonder if now that it’s Biden proposing the schools to reopen if people will support it ...

    NathaliaNathalia4 päivää sitten
  • I'm in school and we went back social distancing was pretty much not a thing we thought about although we are in Aus where covid19 isn't a thing in our area atleast

    MewmereMewmere5 päivää sitten
  • I don't understand the rush to opening schools. What, to get kids out of domestic abusive households? That would make sense, but given what is currently called a school, it's not worth a kid's life (or any teachers and staffs lives) to earn a bunch of test-givers money. Use this time to fix the flaws, rebuild, and make schools better instead of just bulldozing down this metaphorical road like someone who lost a tire on the highway and won't stop, despite the screeching. Honestly.

    Rikki SlonceRikki Slonce8 päivää sitten
  • 1

    Yunfei XingYunfei Xing12 päivää sitten
  • EXCELLENT information to hear!!! ❤️

    The Rose ReporterThe Rose Reporter13 päivää sitten
  • You would rather your kid had Covid, than the flu. Say what???????????????????

    Warren GWarren G18 päivää sitten
  • Mike: "with us is doctor Epstein" Me: that's an unfortunate last name

    Herobrine_234 5Herobrine_234 521 päivä sitten
  • Jul 26, 22020 Dr. Epstein: No problem with children getting the disease when in schools. December 10, 2020 Dr. Epstein: Stop getting in large groups LA hospitals are in triage and we are at capacity. DR Mike: ??????

    R VR V23 päivää sitten
  • My school has reopened but it’s completely safe. Daily temperature checks, 60% capacity, social distancing, plexi glass on desks, masks (ofc), constant sanitizing of hands and desks, and our assistant principal is very strict with all these rules. We’re one semester in and there have only been two cases. Currently 0 active cases. I feel really safe going in person and I feel my school district is doing well at keeping us safe.

    Sophie SingsSophie Sings25 päivää sitten
    • it's very hard to have kids follow the rules all the time, kudos to your assistant principal!

      Lucas GiralaLucas Girala17 päivää sitten
  • In my school i have 3 kids with COVID-19 and the teachers don’t care there gonna send us back no matter what like bro I’m scared and we’re only in 4th grade and I’m happy it’s break for me rn but on January 5th is when I go back and some kids have asthma and a kid always has to use his inhaler before going outside every time and i have asthma too

    Xx_Willow_xXXx_Willow_xX27 päivää sitten
    • I'm a 8th grader in texas and we've currently had maybe 3 or more students with covid? We've also had a few adults come in contact with it ( especially my teachers ), and i honestly don't see why we should go to school if we're going to have a high chance of dying or spreading it to others even if everyone is wearing a mask

      Boba bunnyBoba bunny23 päivää sitten
  • We have normal school. My teacher almost died with covid in October and November she was hospitalized for awhile. She is back now and she's okay. Idk why she would ever even come back but I'm glad she's okay.

    Carmen AlfaroCarmen Alfaro29 päivää sitten
  • I recently started watching your videos and I love everything you do and are about. You actually make me comfortable about being more open with my primary care doctor. It breaks my heart though that I just figured out at 5:30 am. After waking up for the day on Dec 26th that you went to a party and went against healthy/safe practices regarding COVID-19. Especially when you’re so big on being safe and healthy... I hope it was just a mistake and that you are now choosing to refrain from such behavior and have changed and learned...

    garen Aguilargaren AguilarUukausi sitten
  • High risk individuals should stay in quarantine. If there’s an outbreak schools should be remote, otherwise schools should be open. Alot of children are failing remote schooling. My city just recently got hit with an outbreak of COVID-19!

    June howardJune howardUukausi sitten
    • I have digital but my friend has in person, I am personally against with re-opening school like I don’t want people having to social distance and wearing a mask for 8 hours just to have a piece of paper

      The Nintendo & Rambo FanThe Nintendo & Rambo Fan29 päivää sitten
  • Don't forget about us Paraprofessionals. All faculty and staff have to wear masks.

    Kendall BeckloffKendall BeckloffUukausi sitten
  • These kids hang out today most places back open majority don't wear masks it's cold season the rich can only get the cure so....I don't know....hard subject .. people still dying are any kids...?????

    Stephanie BraceyStephanie BraceyUukausi sitten
  • the comments on this video are totally relatable 💯

    Shiva ManojShiva ManojUukausi sitten
  • The first week that I went back to school I got covid since they don’t really social distance at my school. Anyway I ended up going back a couple months later since I was failing

    Account 3Account 3Uukausi sitten
  • Epstein didn’t kill himself, as you see in this episode.

    Bruh MomentBruh MomentUukausi sitten
  • Any kid would definetely not want to go back

    Jacobus Kurnia KaalapakingJacobus Kurnia KaalapakingUukausi sitten
    • @Diego Zamora do not use the anti-vaccine argument against me. You've got a death wish, and i'm not playing chess with death or at the very least betting on my lungs.

      Jacobus Kurnia KaalapakingJacobus Kurnia KaalapakingUukausi sitten
    • @Jacobus Kurnia Kaalapaking Okay but I hope you realize minors are 7 times more likely to die in a car accident considering they kill 3,000+ minors every year compared to the 400 deaths from covid.... *sO bE cArefUl rIdIng iN cArs tOo*

      Diego ZamoraDiego ZamoraUukausi sitten
    • @Diego Zamora aight then have fun but i ain't taking that risk yet without a vaccine

      Jacobus Kurnia KaalapakingJacobus Kurnia KaalapakingUukausi sitten
    • @Jacobus Kurnia Kaalapaking Hate to break it to you buddy, BUT PEOPLE UNDER 20 ARE GOING OUT. Schools in fact are ALREADY OPEN. It just depends what state or county you live in. In the United States only 13 states have any type of mandatory school closures. Schools that are open haven't caused any noticeable spikes so far. So the problem is that some schools are still closed even though we have already seen that they don't cause damage. As I mentioned before, anyone under 60 should be perfectly fine, and there is a near zero chance that students would die. The fact that only 400 people under 20 have died even though schools are open in most states proves my point. The reason why people over 20 are dying more frequently is because the odds of you dying from ANYTHING increase with age. This is because your immune systems declines, and so does your body's ability to repair damage. You're immune system peaks at the end of puberty btw, not at 30. It's not necessarily that the virus is extremely deadly, but rather that those with lots of health problems are affected. Anyone with a normal immune system and good health will survive, just as they would with an everyday cold. But I think you're missing one of the biggest impacts of quarantine. People's mental health and social development are being harmed which will lead to irreversible damage in the long run. As much as 29% of of children have developed a chronic mental disorder due to quarantine. Preschool-aged children are staying home, and as a result haven't developed the crucial communication skills they need, which is leading them to develop social anxiety and separation anxiety. Highshools nationwide have also seen a 15% increase in failing grades due to distance learning. The fact that the virus has over a 99% survival rate across ALL ages, and 99.997% survival for those under 20, proves that quarantine is doing more harm than good. I'm a firm believer of science, and you haven't showed me ANY numbers that prove your point. I on the other have given you plenty of evidence.

      Diego ZamoraDiego ZamoraUukausi sitten
    • @Diego Zamora and yes the mutated viral strain from the UK is more transmissible/it spreads faster.

      Jacobus Kurnia KaalapakingJacobus Kurnia KaalapakingUukausi sitten
  • All this was Donald Trump's fault!

    BronzedCactusPVZ_2004BronzedCactusPVZ_2004Uukausi sitten
    • It was China's actually

      Diego ZamoraDiego ZamoraUukausi sitten
  • His reasons for going back to school were very opinionated amd unscientific, he's definitely politicized it

    zCilaszCilasUukausi sitten
    • @Gaming Gator Well this video is pretty old, so maybe it's not that he politicized it, but rather that there wasn't a lot of information available at the time. In reality, children are MUCH LESS likes to SPREAD the virus than the general population, not to mention that they are much less likely to die which I'm sure you already knew.

      Diego ZamoraDiego ZamoraUukausi sitten
    • He is literally a doctor. HE USES SCIENCE for his answers.

      Gaming GatorGaming GatorUukausi sitten
  • I think one of the most important things that was said in this conversation was the fact that we are still learning! People have been very quick to criticise responses during this pandemic but this is an unprecedented situation! For one, it's a novel virus. Also, the world is a very different place now than in the past when we have faced similar pandemics. We have an aging population and more people surviving with chronic diseases. We also have a much larger population. Technology has progressed so sanitation and healthcare are more advanced, but we also have much more travel going on. There are many more factors but the bottom line is - we are learning as we go!

    Abby HuntleyAbby HuntleyUukausi sitten
  • I would just like to say I go to a small school and we have been in person all year (with distance learning option) and have not had any COVID cases, some of the things we do are not be in person on Wednesdays to steam and clean the whole school, all classes are dismissed at a staggered time so the hall ways don’t get crowded, masks are required and you have to wear them correctly, arrows mark the hallways so you can only go one way so everyone is facing the same direction and not bumping into each other, social distance is also Inforced and of you don’t follow it you will be sent home. We also have silent lunches all facing the same direction. While this all sounds annoying it works and is not actually that hard. So just wear your masks and stay apart from people so keep you and other people safe!

    Panda GirlPanda GirlUukausi sitten
  • I teach in a private childcare facilities in Manhattan. I did not feel comfortable returning to work... still don’t. It’s bizarre to me that they would close public schools but keep private opened. It’s impossible to have young kids socially distance.

    Victoria ItskovVictoria ItskovUukausi sitten
  • I agree. *Guess what happened anyway?!* According to the figures, C@vid was so close to near-eradication...

    Fiona RedfernFiona RedfernUukausi sitten
  • Would love to see a check-in about this topic now that we’re almost 4 months into the school year. I’ve been teaching 4 in person classes and 2 virtual since August and there has been very little transmission from within the classroom with good safety measures, quarantining, and contact tracing in place. That said, students’ and teachers’ batteries are draining quickly with months to go still.

    Elizabeth DixonElizabeth DixonUukausi sitten
    • I'm insanely stressed and feel like I haven't learned anything this year. I'm all out of juice and we're just approaching midterms, my grades are the worst they've ever been. Many kids are becoming depressed and committing suicide.

      ParkerParkerUukausi sitten
  • The uncomfortable truth is that teachers, janitors, food service workers etc will simply be thrown under the COVID bus so that children can get a quality education. That is seriously it. I get it, this online schooling thing isn't working because none of these teachers have been trained to teach like that. My husband is a teacher and he hates this. I'm a lunch lady and I miss the kids. BUT. I also don't want to get COVID. I don't want my husband to get COVID either. I know there's more of a chance that it won't be so bad, but there's also the chance that it could be really bad. I don't need more medical bill debt in my life, I don't need long term damage to my body, and I definitely don't want to lose my husband just to give kids a better education. I know it's a difficult situation, and I know these kids are going to basically be a year or so behind in learning. I know they might be depressed and suicidal. But I'm not dying for that. I'm not sacrificing my life, my body, and my only family for that. And if we go back to school, my husband HAS to go back. It's his career, he's tens of thousands of dollars in student debt, and he has no choice. I can find a different job that will be more safe, but he can't. I don't fucking like this situation either, but I'm going to have to call bullshit on Doctor Mike on this one. Sorry.

    Charissa 's CrazyCharissa 's CrazyUukausi sitten
  • Schools are overcrowded anyways. Reduce class sizes and hours. Follow Finland's education system. All our education and pediatric COVID-19 problems solved.

    Albie OvalAlbie OvalUukausi sitten
  • Teacher unions pushing for closing.

    Dan MatthewsDan MatthewsUukausi sitten
  • This is why My parents now home school me

    Pie GuyPie GuyUukausi sitten
  • That evil elf fauci should have been replaced with people like Dr Scott Atlas a long time ago.

    John MorelliJohn MorelliUukausi sitten
  • Its important that we stay safe however, if we're going to be in and out of lockdown we need to come up with a long term plan that will reduce the impacts on teenagers and kids education. X

    Laura WatsonLaura Watson2 kuukautta sitten
  • Aww its the wonderful guy from that antivax discussion! Aww bless his wee heart good to see you bud 😊

    Laura WatsonLaura Watson2 kuukautta sitten
  • ahhhhhhh!!!! That’s the doctor from the jubilee video!!!! Two amazing doctors ! Thank you for this great video.

    S. N.S. N.2 kuukautta sitten
  • School reopens Kids meet friends Friends : hugs 🫂

    Essie was boredEssie was bored2 kuukautta sitten
  • I’ll be baffled if I’m forced to attend my collage in person to only die so some idiotic rich person looks good

    FrankSmellsOfApricots [OTTNCP]FrankSmellsOfApricots [OTTNCP]2 kuukautta sitten
  • And now the reality is hitting - COVID-19 is on the rise, and schools must close for the simple reason that there are so few substitute teachers available that some schools have as much as ⅓ of their staff out.

    Ellen GalbavyEllen Galbavy2 kuukautta sitten
  • Me whos a 5th grader in all this nonsense: 👁👄👁

    BoredMuffin5050BoredMuffin50502 kuukautta sitten
  • In my brothers school they replaced recess with P.E and they cut off 10 minutes of recess/P.E and your not allowed to touch anything ANYTHING so they exercise and they give WAY WAY WAY TO MUCH HOMEWORK before corona started it was only a math page and their but now my brother told me he has to do 16 slides of something ,he has to take at least 2 or 3 test a day, he has to read about the pharaohs of Egypt each day and they give you bonus math and it’s 5 pages pages and you need to do it all in a single day

    Father PucciFather Pucci2 kuukautta sitten
  • This is hypocritical. I hope this is updated. If you can do elearning during a pandemic you should. Yes kids may get it Less often or Less severe that doesn’t mean kids don’t end up sick and even if it doesn’t kill them it could harm them for years. You don’t know it won’t this has only been around for months. My next door neighbor Died of covid. Because my daughter has been doing K12 digital online learning this year we’ve been able to spend time with my mom.

    Sarah LeeSarah Lee2 kuukautta sitten
  • As a parent this is really sad. K12.com can do online public school. My daughter has been in the public school systems for the last several years but in the middle of a pandemic? Nope doing K12.

    Sarah LeeSarah Lee2 kuukautta sitten
  • School re-0pened already and we are seeing how the rates are increasing. Students should socialize and not have social distances fistream.info/work/videot/iteSac3ajpzK32A

    Tony Omary - Elite Affiliate HacksTony Omary - Elite Affiliate Hacks2 kuukautta sitten
  • I am glad we chose to do virtual learning for our children. I have seen many children and adults have to come home for 14 days per how long they were around someone who was exposed. Being someone who has a heart condition, I was not willing to put myself nor our teachers at more risk. We have zoom and other kids who are homeschooled in our area which our children interact with. I hear talk of schools shutting down again during the covid/ influenza and it is upsetting. Our state has had children pass and due to the saddening of that and mutations it is to me a personal choice per families. Best of luck and lots of prayers for all families everywhere.

    Amanda xxAmanda xx2 kuukautta sitten
  • Hi, Dr. Mike, maybe you’re not gonna see this, but I wanna share with you how I felt after seeing this video. I’m from Taiwan, I’m not sure if you knew about us or not, but we are pretty successful at containing COVID-19. We are a small island that’s very close to China and have a population of 23 million people. The total corona virus cases from January til today was 600 cases and 7 deaths. We’ve never gone into lockdown and we haven’t had a local transmission for more then 200 days, the life in Taiwan is pretty much the same. I’m not here to brag about it, it’s just I got really confused when I saw the news about the COVID status in the US everyday, cuz it seemed very easy for Taiwanese government to contain this virus (of course not that easy, Taiwanese government still made a lot of efforts to fight against COVID, but compared to the US and most of the country in the world, I think I can say we did it pretty easily). The discussion of reopening schools was one of the topics that confused me the most, cuz, in my point of view, I think the answer is pretty simple, you shouldn’t reopen schools unless you’re sure you’ve already contained the virus and you can guarantee that reopen schools won’t make local transmissions. I didn’t understand why people had to debate this issue. However, watching your video made me realise that there are difficulties for some schools to do online teaching, there are children who depend on schools to feed them, there are parents who are incapable to home educate their children and there are many other reasons that made this reopen schools issue a lot more complicated than I thought. As you and Dr. Epstein said, how to balance between children’s rights for education and teachers’ rights for not exposing (potentially) to the virus is extremely difficult. I don’t have good suggestions to this situation either ( and I doubt anybody will listen to a foreigner’s suggestion if I had one LOL), but at least now I knew why some of the methods we applied in Taiwan could never succeed in the US. And now I have better understanding why there won’t be one solution for every state/school. Although I’m not American, I’ve got friends and relatives who live in the US, so, thank you for sharing this video for people who are outside of the US to understand what is going on in the country. I hope for the best to the US and also hope you can defeat this virus as soon as possible.

    Angela HsuehAngela Hsueh2 kuukautta sitten
  • I go to 6th grade not online when I read this title I was terrified I’ll edit once I’ve watched

    RottBullerGracie !RottBullerGracie !2 kuukautta sitten
  • Schools are open now.... Let's see what he has to say and what's actually happened.....This will be interesting to compare.

    Rachel HallRachel Hall2 kuukautta sitten
  • My temperature is always high due to stress 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

    Sam SSam S2 kuukautta sitten
  • Hi. I’m a teen from the UK. Schools have reopened here as I think they have in the US. It was a bad idea. Especially over here. First of all. The teachers don’t care for the students health. They say ‘This is your responsibility you have to wear a mask to avoid getting your families ill, the teachers I’ll, other people ill.’ And I don’t think they should be shifting responsibility on a literal child when in school students are literally under their teachers care until the day ends. As someone who shows symptoms of anxiety (I’m not saying I have it because I haven’t went to a doctor about it and probably never will) in the last few weeks of lockdown I had a panic attack thinking about schools reopening and how everything will go wrong and...now I’m stressed because teachers are throwing responsibility on children. When we aren’t allowed to wear masks in class and we don’t social distance at all. The most social distance there is is from teachers to students. People from my school have already tested positive. A few groups in six form (which is basically an alternative to college) and groups from year 10,9,7 and one or two cases from year 8. And that was in the first few weeks of it reopening. The school now have this counsellor who probably isn’t supposed to be one or isn’t qualified trying to get students to talk about mental health and any troubles they have but no ones going to do it. I know I’m defiantly not. As someone who has to avoid talking about certain issues with my own family talking to a teacher who I barely know about mental issues isn’t going happen. And due to the pandemic barely anyone in my class feels safe in school. I didn’t beforehand either but that’s probably because I have troubles opening up and trusting people so I normally do a very dumb move and push them away. Which doesn’t help anything...well. Have fun reading this mess of a paragraph which I finished before school.

    C__Anishi__C__Anishi__2 kuukautta sitten
  • Irish Government: “We must reopen schools for students mental health” Me in Highschool/ secondary school HELL NO

    Sarah SmythSarah Smyth2 kuukautta sitten
  • Dr. Mike, what are your thoughts on the residual effects of Covid-19 in children? You are no doubt knowledgeable about SSPE, Subacute Sclerosing Panencephilitis. While these cases are regarded as being “rare”, as stated by the research on the NIH website, “with fewer than 10 cases per year reported in the Unites States”, that was largely due to wide spread immunization, thus preventing the spread of measles. Ultimately, those ten children still died from post measles complications and that leads me to consider, Covid-19, being to date low on the child morbidity and death rate, does not guarantee anything. Since we are still learning new facts through rigorous continued research, do you think the potential for similar complications, or entirely different though fatal complications may be discovered years from now? I know, I know...you may only be able to speculate and you are exceptional in speaking facts, truth and avoiding misinformation. It is certainly not my intention in asking this to spread unwarranted fears or anxiety. I am truly asking your medical viewpoint because my sister and I discuss this often. No one wants to discuss it. It puts things into perspective when you consider that yes, your child is more likely to recover, but..what if that is temporary? I think people should be made aware of these potential realities, unpleasant as they may be. We need to look at the full scope, not just “I recovered today”. Tomorrow will still come, and it would be reassuring to know from a medical viewpoint that perhaps, you have good reason to not be concerned of such potential complications. I ask in good conscience, what are your thoughts? I understand that your thoughts are not automatically medical fact, but you have more medical knowledge than I do. That being said, I won’t hold you to anything you may share purely as educated speculation. Thank you for taking the time to read this. I will watch for a response. Also, would you consider this article credible? Sometimes I do wonder if things are published to spread undue concern, a way to “sensationalize” tragedy. It seems legit but I could be erroneous in my assessment. www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fatal-measles-complication-killed-patients-years-later-n674706

    Little MissLittle Miss2 kuukautta sitten
    • EDIT: Those children still died. (Not 10 children..as the research stated it was fewer than that).

      Little MissLittle Miss2 kuukautta sitten
  • my high school reopended... im screwed

    The Ace Of FishingThe Ace Of Fishing2 kuukautta sitten
  • You’re both gay

    WetBlondieWetBlondie2 kuukautta sitten
  • What the science says is that schools aren’t enabling the transmission of this thing

    WetBlondieWetBlondie2 kuukautta sitten
  • Today we recorded the highest number of cases since the start of the pandemic, add that with a flu season in a northerly state(very cold), plus less we forget, Thanksgiving and Christmas will be super-spreader events. This is a very bad idea to go back to school in person. Reopening schools in a perfect environment for the virus is somewhat questionable.

    PhysicswithMrVPhysicswithMrV2 kuukautta sitten
  • kids: homeworks philippines: modules usa: social distancing hotel: trivago

    ReyCloud9ReyCloud92 kuukautta sitten
  • I’m extremely disappointed that you didn’t bring in a third perspective - an educator should have definitely been a part of this conversation. You’re talking about entire districts pivoting their plans like that’s an easy thing to do. It’s not! Our district is doing a lot of things to try to help our students most in need by allowing students with IEPs and some 504 plans to come in-person so they can get the individualized help they need. We’re bussing out meals to families who rely on schools to feed their kids. We’re providing wireless hotspots to students with no internet access so they can access their school work. Teachers are working well beyond their contract hours to make sure weekly materials are ready for online learning, but there’s only so much money that can pay for those needs because budgets are being cut like crazy. For those that are in-person, some teachers are only given enough time for ONE quarantine period, any others that need to be taken come directly out of the paycheck. For those that are hybrid in-seat/virtually learning, ONE teacher needs to tend to the needs of students both in the classroom and at home. Classroom sizes are too small for 6 feet apart, and additionally proper PPE can’t be provided due to lack of funds. The mental health of teachers is atrocious right now because they are being severely overworked. Those of my colleagues who have kids are finding themselves having to choose between spending time taking care of their own families or their students. Despite many of us having master’s degrees, we are not paid like we have that level of education, and no hazard pay for if we get the virus and have to quarantine. We’re lucky if our districts even communicate positive cases or new plans with us before they tell families. We are very uninformed on most of the decisions being made. Yes, you are providing a lot of medical information about the risks, both physical and mental, but you CANNOT speak for teachers and people who work for schools when you say that schools should be able to pivot easily or that the mental health of children, who are asymptomatic carriers, should be put above the health concerns of the adults who work with them, who may have serious medical conditions of their own. We already ask way too much of teachers, when will enough be enough? I want to help children learn and I feel called to do so, but not without pay or safe working conditions.

    Elizabeth BrockElizabeth Brock2 kuukautta sitten
    • I can relate wholeheartedly to your post! This is exactly what we are facing as teachers but yet these discussions are not highlighted in these "medical" discussions. Very few of these said "medical experts" fail to acknowledge that the anxiety and workload of teachers are through the roof! #all41and14all

      PhysicswithMrVPhysicswithMrV2 kuukautta sitten
  • I returned to school on Monday after a kid got coronvirus and nobody wears there masks 🤦🏽‍♀️and we are going in lock down on Thursday but schools are still open.

    Ninja SlicerNinja Slicer2 kuukautta sitten
  • French schools are reopening after teacher was beheaded.

    Diana WolfDiana Wolf2 kuukautta sitten
  • watching this as boris has announced a national 'lockdown' but keeping schools open 😀✌️

    b 1470b 14702 kuukautta sitten
  • Trump be like: *EXTREME STUPID STUPIDITY INTESIFIES*

    Kevin BatanKevin Batan2 kuukautta sitten
  • The fact that a doctor is saying this is great look at UK Boris thinks differently oh let's open schools even though people travel on buses to get there

    Marc CharltonMarc Charlton2 kuukautta sitten
  • In Swiss they are like: Oh look more than 9000 people are being infected everyday... (with the little population there it’s quite a lot) let’s keep the schools open even though there have been many covid-19 cases in school 🤷🏻‍♀️

    Chrissi EisnerChrissi Eisner2 kuukautta sitten
  • When he said Pivot all I heard was Ross lmao

    GracielaGraciela2 kuukautta sitten
  • School is so fucking bad now

    Kid laroi sold his soul Pray to AllahKid laroi sold his soul Pray to Allah2 kuukautta sitten
  • I just started this video. I have been told by Doctors that we don’t know the long term effects of COVID yet, like heart issues. However Doctors have multiple options on things.

    Danny MitchellDanny Mitchell2 kuukautta sitten
  • fake plandemic to create new world order and control our lives.

    KARMA777KARMA7772 kuukautta sitten
  • we must open schools. fake plandemic doesn't justify closing schools and life

    KARMA777KARMA7772 kuukautta sitten
  • This guy was in the middle ground video you made right

    Nico's pvzNico's pvz3 kuukautta sitten
  • I'm glad school reopened, dumb plandemic

    Ritz rolypolyRitz rolypoly3 kuukautta sitten
  • At our school (DISTRICT 2) we wear masks in our hallway and social distance and we loop AROUND the hallway to get to class, we are separated by days. A day Monday and Wednesday. B day (me) Tuesday and Thursday. When we get to class we have a desk apart we can take off our mask but only for 10mins and I have 7 periods. Starting middle school rough.

    The tea sisThe tea sis3 kuukautta sitten
  • I think one of the big issues that's not being addressed is while we're weighing the importance of children's need for education versus teacher safety, if a teacher dies, how many more do we have to actually replace them? We are in a growing teacher shortage across the nation. I agree with Dr. Mike that there needs to be teacher input in this because without it we will just drive that shortage deeper as teaching becomes a less and less desirable profession in the US. While many teachers get into the profession for the children, many more choose to leave the profession due to its low pay and minimal voice. As classroom sizes grow due to shortages, teachers burn out faster and fewer people from the next generation are drawn to the profession. In my student teaching program at UC Davis, we had people dropping out of the program by the end of the first quarter. In my group pursuing a teaching credential in mathematics, 5 of the original 13 of us dropped out. And while I finished the program, the experience was so mentally and emotionally draining I never pursued teaching after I completed the program and got my teaching credential. That was in 2013. I can only imagine what's become of the situation now. We can't keep thinking, "well, the children need to come first," because if that's our attitude and priority as people who don't have to work in those conditions, there honestly won't be enough people left willing to stick around and put your children first. There already aren't enough.

    kecharakittiekecharakittie3 kuukautta sitten
  • kids are fine even if they get the virus, the bad thing is that they can transmit it to the elders

    abilyn 1105abilyn 11053 kuukautta sitten
  • in my school nobody social distances, tables have gotten closer to how they were before, and nobody-not even teachers wear masks but whatever it takes to keep us sAfE

    ella shinella shin3 kuukautta sitten
  • Schools have reopened and the number of cases in Colorado appear to be exponentiating in October 2020. This doctor is recommending to reopen schools because he believes that kids need to be socialized with other kids (note that this is a sociological argument coming from a medical doctor, this is NOT a medical argument). Listen to the science? The science shows that increasing the number of infection vectors increases the number of daily infections. Unless the thinking is more along the lines of... infect them while they are young to develop herd immunity; but they never said that.

    GilianGilian3 kuukautta sitten
  • I am a special education preschool teacher who works in an elementary school and I definitely do not feel safe returning to school in the middle of a pandemic. I’m always worried about catching something at school because I’ve already caught so much from the kids. I never had things like strep throat or bronchitis until I started working in a school. All of this years before the virus hit. So even with all the “precautions” our county is planning and suggesting the schools implement, I don’t feel safe going back, because at the end of the day kids will be kids and they are not going to be as careful as they should about not spreading germs, no matter how many times we tell them, they won’t take it seriously. Plus, kids have no personal boundaries. I’ve gotten sick so many times simply because kids like to try and get in my face when they get the chance, they just don’t have that concept of staying in their own bubbles down yet, and there’s nothing we can really do about that. I’m worried not only for my and my fellow teachers and school staff’s health, but for the kids as well. I work with many medically fragile kids who catch things so easily and are so heavily impacted by the more common illnesses. I worry for them so much on the daily and now with this virus my worry has only increased. I just hope whenever we do return to school it is closer to the end of this pandemic and we can truly go back safely, but I’m not holding my breath.

    BillskissieBillskissie3 kuukautta sitten
  • So. I know that this was from 2 months ago but I know that my rural school district is no longer enforcing the mask mandate in my state and looking the other way when kids have them around the neck or not over their noses. My state is having an explosion of cases right now and no one seems to care. I ended up having to keep my son at home to avoid passing Covid onto my elderly mother who lives with us. The school here isn’t following guidelines. The cohorts that they are divided into are the normal size of their home rooms. There are about 23 kids per group. Then they are allowed to cross pollinate during lunch thus negating the point of the cohorts.

    faeriesmakfaeriesmak3 kuukautta sitten
  • As a teacher and a parent, shame on both of you.

    John BraceyJohn Bracey3 kuukautta sitten
  • Nice thing is that tomorrow in German the school are opening with twice as much infections as in the first time

    MikkoMikko3 kuukautta sitten
  • If you are immucompromised you definitely should not be in schools. Schools are cesspools of germs

    Gayle OverlyGayle Overly3 kuukautta sitten
  • I worry about the children in abusive homes falling through the cracks because at school there are mandatory reporters of signs of abuse. A lot of families are just disappearing and schools can’t even find them

    Gayle OverlyGayle Overly3 kuukautta sitten
  • My son has to go to school everyday for a couple of hours but I called the school and said "Stop sending them to school for every day it is way to dangerous" in my opinion kids should only go at school whenever their parents tell them because what happens if their child gets covid and goes to school with it and infect a other child. That's why it's better if parents decide if they go to school because they are the first ones that will notice.

    Jaden VargasJaden Vargas3 kuukautta sitten
  • Someone in my class has the virus and I hope there okay :(

    Cheerio ArticCheerio Artic3 kuukautta sitten
  • You want to know something this will backfire I’m a kid and I know no one will do this and we’re like little time bombs we could take this back to our parents and well that will be it’s happening now we were fine until this happened it was going away then we opened schools and kids brought it back i do virtual 24/7 but I had to go to school during hours for computer maintenance and I saw when the teachers were gone I saw nobody wearing a face diaper aka face mask they were talking to each other and not washing hands I see nothing going to happen for the good if this keeps up

    ACE _LAWS21ACE _LAWS213 kuukautta sitten
  • In my class we have masks, but then there’s that one who doesn’t have and no one doesn’t anything about it. Then someone next to my school had COVID-19 and some students got infected so they’re closing schools again in Monday. If not on Monday then on 17th November:/ it’s Thursday now.

    hitman bang v-vhitman bang v-v3 kuukautta sitten
  • You know that almost a hundred percent of parents out there... Can't afford to pay daycare and don't have somebody to watch their children... This is affecting people in all sorts of ways that you guys don't even consider.. like children learning social habits at that pivotal time... People being financially destitute because this covered bologna.. you can't just shut it down because one thing and not think of all the other unintended consequences...

    Indagrow guyIndagrow guy3 kuukautta sitten
  • Do these things magically change when kids go back to school ?.. no magic doesn't exist..

    Indagrow guyIndagrow guy3 kuukautta sitten
  • Y'all are doctors I'm 3 minutes into this BS... How come y'all aren't saying it's a 99.997% chance that u won't die from it... Isn't it something stupid like 0.003% of people that get it will be hospitalized this is insane you know that my son's in grade two and he's missing all of that valuable time where he's supposed to be learning making friends social habits screw all that let's screw up a generation because of some b*******......in the words of Benjamin Franklin people who trade their freedom for safety deserve neither !

    Indagrow guyIndagrow guy3 kuukautta sitten
  • I do think a forgotten demographic here is the older school children. I'm in my final year of Sixth Form (17/18 years), so our chances of passing and suffering from the virus are very similar to those other adults, but we're still back at school. I don't want to go online again but despite my school's relatively small population my year alone has had more cases that the six years below us combined. I'm not in America but the cases are very much rising again, and whilst death rates are lower we're already seeing more and more cases of teachers and parents being infected. We need a better model.

    Abby StaffordAbby Stafford3 kuukautta sitten
  • A week in, people are gonna make excuses for not wearing their masks, “I’m allergic” “My dog ate it”

    sqeaks •sqeaks •3 kuukautta sitten
  • the smile and nod energey

    Potato's Gonna PotatePotato's Gonna Potate3 kuukautta sitten
  • I just went to school for 2 weeks and kids were sneezing with THERE MASKS UNDER THEIR NOSE!!! and then decide to put it all the way up! and there's no option to social distance if there's that one kid who doesn't want to and wont back up! I switched back to virtual schooling only 2 weeks in

    Potato's Gonna PotatePotato's Gonna Potate3 kuukautta sitten
  • Why did they open schools when we go out side we take are masks of some kids do in the bus but the thing is they are going to go to friends houses it’s just going to make it way worst because at your house with your friend your going to be even closer then when you at school it’s dumb

    Hallie HarperHallie Harper3 kuukautta sitten
  • As a student I will tell you. If we go back there is going to be a huge outbreak of kids with covid. I know my peers they will not follow the rules put into place they will treat it as a joke.

    Monica LewisMonica Lewis3 kuukautta sitten
  • I appreciate all the different pieces of this conversation. Weighing the pros and cons of each issue and perspective. Something I've noticed in the comments is people either saying we shouldn't open schools due to x,y,z or we should open schools due to x,y,z but it's all within the sphere of their personal family situations. Guess what, both can be valid. If you're not comfortable with your child returning in person, due to at risk family members, or any worries you have, they don't have to. Many districts are either offering streaming into the live classroom for at home learning, or a certified home school type curriculum to follow at home either online or through correspondence, that is monitored by a teacher. On the same token if you want your child to return to school, due to economic needs, educational needs, socialization, etc.. and feel that the sanitization procedures of the school are good then your child should be able to return to school, provided they wear a mask, respect distances, and follow cleaning protocols. Believe it or not it can be safe for school districts, especially in small towns to open safely and not have reported covid cases. It can also be true that say schools in the heart of L.A. or N.Y.C. perhaps cannot open safely yet. The decision should lie with either individual districts or even schools, the health departments in said area, and the families they serve. Not by commentors on the internet or any one single experience.

    Maggie PlummerMaggie Plummer3 kuukautta sitten
  • So if many fully grown adults don’t take the virus seriously then what makes schools think kids will

    OW AcronixOW Acronix3 kuukautta sitten
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